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Obama sure has a lot of guts

Published 9:44am Wednesday, July 9, 2014

Does anyone see anything wrong with this Hobby Lobby ruling? There are some religious groups that are against blood transfusions. Now if they want to start a business and refuse to furnish blood transfusion in their insurance, they will have this right. There have been parents prosecuted for refusing to allow their child a blood transfusion.

I think it is terrible the way big money is getting to the pockets of our politicians. It is so obvious that this is what happened. Why did this issue come up now? Not until Obamacare is here to stay did this type of situation rear its ugly head. They had no problem with this before Obamacare. Those blood-thirsty, far-right Republicans will do anything they can think of to cause problems for Obama.

Obama has showed me he has more guts than any of our previous presidents. Just before the last election he went after Osama bin Laden and got him. He did this with zero casualties. If he would have had any problems, he would have lost the election.

It was Obama who voted against invading Iraq along with France and Germany who wanted nothing to do with that. It was all over Fox News to punish France and Germany for not supporting us in the invasion. Just stop and think where we would be at if that do-nothing Congress would have worked with Obama instead of against him. I don’t know how the Republicans are going to try and take credit for the stock market going from $6,500 to $17,000 in the last six years. The unemployment is dropping, housing market is going up with housing starts. I know they will come up with something to try and take credit for all this like they always do when something goes right.

It’s going to be interesting to see what they plan to run on. They haven’t done anything for last six years to talk about. For those of you who need evidence as to whether I am the most-hated person in Albert Lea by those far-right pinheads, go to your computer and look up Albert Lea Tribune and go on letters to the editor. Look for the articles that have the most comments.   They are all mine.

These far-right pinheads stick together like wolves in a pack blasting me. You will get a bang out of this one. He blasts me, and I blast him back. We went back and forth, and then he wanted me to apologize for what I said. The nerve of him. He invades my letter and then wants an apology from me for blasting him back.

If my letters didn’t make so much sense, they wouldn’t comment on them. You will notice they blast the messenger and not the message. I love it. I can’t think of another place I would choose to be this popular.

 

Wayne Thorson

Albert Lea

  • Erik Schminke

    Wayne, is that morse code, or are you attempting to typographically obfuscate an obscenity? If it is the latter, I should remind you that that is a violation of this site’s terms of use. While I DO enjoy bantering with you, I am NOT above reporting it to the site admins. Tread carefully.

    Just in case you forgot already:
    http://www.albertleatribune.com/services/policies/#termsofuse

    • Wayne Thorson

      Erik, The ball or bull is in your hand. You decide.

  • sdson77

    Wayne, my May 9th 2014 letter to the editor, titled Republicans made the difference, I spelled out exactly what they have done over the last 30 years. You never commented on it. I answered your question.(What have the republicans ever done for anyone) Evidently you must have agreed with everything I said, or you have memory issues. Go back and read it. Oh by the way, everything came from Government reports. Something you are afraid of checking the history and comparing them to your failed president Obama. Wayne try arguing with factual information and not MSNBC leftist propaganda.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Jeff I went back and looked for your comment on May 9th. I found nothing that read Republicans made the difference. I could write 3 sentences and I could tell you what 3 things the Democrats have done for you and me. So don’t make me waste my time again.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Just so you 6 far right pinheads know. We have broke my record for the most comments. It was 57 before. You all deserve an atta boy. You realy need 6 more because it isn’t fair. Just 6 against me.

  • Lone Wolf

    OK Wayne’s World, name three things in three sentences that Democrats did for you and me without–and this is very important–without violating anyone else’s rights, i.e. without costing anyone else what is rightfully theirs.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Okay George, I can do it in one sentence. There is Social Security, Medicare and Obamacare. I just gave Jeff 3 sentences because I thought he would need it. The Republicans fought against all of these. But good for the Democrats, they got the job done.

  • Lone Wolf

    Wayne’s World, you apparently do not know how to read. I said WITHOUT violating anyone else’s rights.

    • Wayne Thorson

      George, Evidently you are the one that can’t read. In my question I had no rules. You are playing on my turf. I make the rules. Besides if the 3 things I mentioned were put on a ballet. They would all pass by a big majority of the voters. I would love to see this done. I think freedom of choice and background checks on firearms should also be put on the ballet so the American people can put these all to rest so we can get something done in our government.

  • Lone Wolf

    You don’t get to write the rules Wayne’s World. Party on.

  • Wayne Thorson

    George, Neither do you. You can’t answer my question that was asked first so now you want to dance around it. Like you always do. It’s about quiting time for your two-stepping band. You invaded my letter to the editor. I didn’t invade yours. I know you think you own the world but you don’t.

  • Lone Wolf

    You are RIGHT for once Wayne’s World. I do not get to write the rules here, the Albert Lea Tribune does. They provide a comments section so people can comment on anything written, and they have not given you an exemption from it. When you write nonsense, we are free to comment on it or criticize it. If you don’t want to be criticized, then keep your ignorance to yourself.

    You have an authoritarian strain that runs consistently through the positions that you take and it also manifests itself in your attitude that you don’t think that you have to defend your positions, or what you call facts. You think that you are the only one that gets to ask questions and that it is out of bounds for any one to challenge you.

    By the way, congratulations on your topping your old record of comments. You must be quite proud of your achievement. You obviously have had quite the life if this one of your personal highlights.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Thank you George.

  • Scott Bute

    Wayne, you responded by saying “nobody thinks abortion is right”. If only that were true. I have been at prayer vigils outside of abortion clinics and at the Capitol during pro-life marches. There is, sad to say, an element of folks out there that worship at the altar of the death culture and abortion is their “sacrament”. It is ugly my friend, to watch people who have been so deceived by the death culture that they are willing to do almost anything to defend it. Statistics have widely proved that the greatest percentage of abortions are elective abortions, meaning that the baby would be an inconvenience, therefore has to be killed. Meanwhile, 2,000,000 people remain on waiting lists, looking for a child to adopt. Pope Benedict XVI said so beautifully, “Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed. Each of us is loved. Each of us is necessary.” And no Wayne, a person who is truly pro-life would never seek to “hang” the woman who had one or the doctor who performed it. Instead, we love them, we pray for them and in the mother’s case, we tell them the truth about what abortion really is and we offer alternatives like adoption!

  • sdson77

    Your right Wayne the Democrats do own that, 3 of the biggest government welfare programs ever. They haven’t helped people get better, they have made people dependent on the government. That is what democrats want, total government dependency on the government. At least Republican policies let people keep their money and help them out of poverty and move up classes and better employment opportunities. Every time the Democrats have been in control those opportunities dry up. I find it sad that you think being dependent on government is actually helping people get ahead.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Scott, I sure would like to know what you Bible thumpin far right Republicans want to change so it would satisfy you. You sit and preach how you hate abortion. You are so concerned about the fetus until it is born but as soon as it is born it is on it’s own. You don’t want to feed it, provide medical assisstance, pay for its housing or care about its education. But as soon as it is 18 you want to put a gun in its hand and tell them to go give their life for their country. Look on your computor for the following. Catholics and Abortion. In the polls taken 85% approve when women’s health is seriously endanger. 76% approve if is a result of rape. 74% approve if fetus has a serious defect. The best thing you can do is keep your nose out of other peoples business because you don’t know the facts. That’s why I say I am against abortion but I certainly don’t want to be the judge of someone that has one. Because I don’t know all the facts. So stop your holier than thou preaching cause nobody is listening to you.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Jeff, I know you Republicans think Social Security and Medicare are a form of welfare. So I am going to educate you. I have paid into these programs all my life just like you have. You are only drawing out of it money you put into it when you reach the age of majority. I am using both of these now. I have been drawing from it for over 10 years, I could get along without it if I had to but I don’t choose to. I am sitting pretty good. As for Obama Care I bet you think you wouldn’t be paying for their doctor bills without it. You are wronge again. They could previously go to the emergenct room if they were hurt and they had to take them in and the bill was sent to the government. Now they are paying into an insurance program that has to accept them. This will eventualy pay off for itself. I know you would choose to live in a society that lives by the rule of the survival of the fittest just like animals do. I would rather live in a society where people are ready and willing to care for one another.

  • Scott Bute

    A common response by the left to derail the pro-life position is to say that we don’t care about the baby or the mother after the birth has happened. Proof? Being truly pro-life means that you never stop caring for either the child or the mother. Project Rachel is a great ministry that does exactly that! Check it out while your “googling away”. No one is “judging” anyone. We will ALL stand before Jesus and hear those words, “whatever you did to the least of your brothers and sisters, you did to me.” That includes the unborn child.

  • Scott Bute

    All of your statistics mean nothing. Even if your stated numbers were true, they are not true of those who actually practice their faith. Remember, there was only one public opinion poll ever taken in the Bible. The overwhelming results? CRUCIFY HIM!

  • sdson77

    Wrong again Wayne. I will use my mom and myself as an example. My Mom has been paid 21/2 times more in Social Security benefits than she ever paid in. She worked full time for nearly 46 years so she paid in for all those years. I have looked at my what projected payout will be and what I have in the Social Security account now and what I am projected to pay in over the next 11 years. After 10 years, if I live that long, I will have exhausted what I have paid in. That is pretty typical of social security, you get about 10 years of payments that cover your pay in to the system. Next, people who are on social security disability also get paid way more than they paid in. That was not what social security was supposed to do. It was set up as a supplement to retirement not the retirement. In regards to Obamacare. My wife and I were on vacation with some friends, one of my friends hurt her knee while on vacation. She does not have health insurance because Obamacare had raised her rates so high she couldn’t afford it. When she went to the emergency room they would do nothing to help her to diagnose the extent of the injury because she wasn’t covered by insurance. This was Mayo in Rochester. Before Obamacare they would have taken care of the knee and set up payments for her. Now they won’t treat her. Your Obamacare is really working Wayne.

  • sdson77

    I choose to live in a society where people have a chance to get ahead in life and not be beholding to the government to support them. Your thinking is wrong if you think government programs help people, it holds people back Wayne. History has shown this time and time again. Since the Great Society of Johnson, family structure has diminished, poverty is still higher than ever. Your precious government programs have done nothing to help rid the US of poverty, it has only created permanent dependent class of people.

  • Lone Wolf

    Hey Wayne! Are you thick or something? I’ve already called you out on this exact logical fallacy that you’ve already used twice before. Namely; “I know you would choose to live in a society that lives by the rule of the survival of the fittest just like animals do. I would rather live in a society where people are ready and willing to care for one another.”

    Wayne, concentrate on this and think for a change. Read it slowly and re-read it if you have to. This is called a false dichotomy or false dilemma. I know that they may be bigger words that you are used to, but that is what they are called. If you want to learn something (which seems doubtful) you are going to have to do some work yourself. After all no one is “given” an education. That is a non argument or a logical fallacy. Why do you keep using these logical fallacies? You look as though you have nothing in your intellectual tool box.

  • Wayne Thorson

    George and Jeff, it is obvious that you are so brainwashed by Fox News and your to far screwed up in the head that there is no way out no matter what facts I bring up. I keep hearing the same rebuttal argument over and over again. But I am not going to give up on you 2. I still have hope for you. Some people are just so stuburn and can’t be helped but I have hopes for you 2. I know you both feel that you are so so right but you are so so wronge.

  • Lone Wolf

    Wayne, why do you keep using those discredited logical fallacies? Fox News has nothing to do with it. Why don’t you defend your use of logical fallacies.

  • Lone Wolf

    Wayne, how can we trust your “facts”? You are a proven liar, making up stuff to try to make a cheap political point when you were badly losing a debate.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Yes George, Look at yourself. You have repeated yourself I don’t know how many timees. Hearing the the same gibborish over and over again gets kinda sickening. Try to think of something else to try and hurt my feelings. This ain’t working.

  • Lone Wolf

    Repetition for retention Wayne, although to retain it, you need to learn it first. I keep repeating because you keep using the same logical fallacies. When you finally learn the lesson and you stop using those same fallacies, then I can talk about the other logical fallacies that you will undoubtedly resort to.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Only in your head George. Only in your head. You must have a special hatred toward me to be so persistant to keep using the same termanology over and over and over and over and over and on and on.

  • Lone Wolf

    OMG WADA IASTE

  • Wayne Thorson

    George, you are obviously the president of the Wayne Thorson most hated person in Albert Lea club by those far right, fox addicted, T-partier pinheads. I sure wish I knew what it was that I said that you hated the most that set you off. I would like to know so I could say it again. This has been a long run of fun.

  • Lone Wolf

    You must enjoy looking stupid, and ignorant. I’m happy to oblige.

  • sdson77

    Only answer you have Wayne, is that I am screwed in the head and fox news brain washes me. You talk about George repeating himself, look in the mirror Wayne. Only reply you have is to repeat your name calling. You haven’t provided any facts what so ever to back your beliefs, Those you do prove I can disprove with U.S government information. You are too far gone to bring back to reality Wayne, but I will continue to prove your facts are wrong.

  • Wayne Thorson

    George, I’m glad you oblige to looking stupid and ignorant. I don’t think I could have said it better myself. Jeff, When you get infomation off of Fox News it is not like getting government information. Just because they preach fair and balanced doesn’t mean they are fair and balanced. Anybody with common sense that watches Fox News should be able to tell this. This how they brain wash weak minded people. They do an excellent job of this. I would appreciate it if I could get you 2 to comment on my heading OBAMA SURE HAS A LOT OF GUTS. I can’t believe no one has said a word about that. Could be they can’t find no fault with it.

  • sdson77

    Titles don’t mean anything Wayne, I have commented on everything in your letter. You choose to ignore because you can’t defend your positions without name calling. Name calling is all you appear capable of doing Wayne. I get my information from http://www.dol.gov/# and http://www.irs.gov/ this is where all my information has come from Wayne. Problem is Wayne you don’t have the guts to find the information on these websites because you would have to admit you are wrong, and you are incapable of doing that Wayne. By the way Wayne, being weak minded is trait followed by people who blindly believe that government knows what is best and we should follow our leaders without question. That fits you perfectly Wayne. Just keep talking Wayne, you prove my point about liberals every time you open your mouth. When challenged name call, if still challenged name call louder. Name calling is all you have because you can’t defend Obama’s programs. Obama has guts for going it alone? That is the cowards way out. Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 all found ways to work with Congress when controlled by the opposite parties. Obama likes the title of president and all the perks that go with it, but he does not want to do the work that is involved to be a leader. Either he is incapable of doing it or thinks because he is Obama they should blindly follow him.

  • luckylindy1965

    looks like i need to contact the book of world records – hopefully you guys will make it to 100 comments . just too bad this all doesn’t make sense .

  • Scott Bute

    President Obama is so “gutsy”, that terrorists the world over are laughing in his face as they rape, pillage and murder innocent people while we do nothing. The world, whether it knows it or not, needs America to be strong and to lead. President Reagan led this way and ended the Cold War and helped bring down Communism without firing a shot! Sigh. If only he were here now!

  • Wayne Thorson

    Scott, What country should we bomb first?

  • Lone Wolf

    So Wayne, the only two options are do nothing or bomb someone? There is your false dichotomy logical fallacy again. You are really stick in a rut.

  • Wayne Thorson

    So George, Instead of finding fault with me, what would you do? That is the question. No matter what Obama does your going to find fault with it. So before he does something. What do you suggest?

  • Lone Wolf

    Why is it that you get to demand answers to your questions from others, but do not think that you have to answer questions about the nonsense that you put out? Be that as it may, we cannot be the worlds police man (or the worlds orphanage). I would not do anything, except condemn that kind of behavior when appropriate.

  • sdson77

    Titles don’t mean anything Wayne, I have commented on everything in your letter. You choose to ignore because you can’t defend your positions without name calling. Name calling is all you appear capable of doing Wayne. I get my information from http://www.dol.gov/# and http://www.irs.gov/ this is where all my information has come from Wayne. Problem is Wayne you don’t have the guts to find the information on these websites because you would have to admit you are wrong, and you are incapable of doing that Wayne. By the way Wayne, being weak minded is a trait followed by people who blindly believe that government knows what is best and we should follow our leaders without question. That fits you perfectly Wayne. Just keep talking Wayne, you prove my point about liberals every time you open your mouth. When challenged name call, if still challenged name call louder. Name calling is all you have because you can’t defend Obama’s programs. Obama has guts for going it alone? Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2 all found ways to work with congress when they were controlled by the opposite party. It doesn’t take guts to go it alone, that is the easy way out, and that is the route Obama has chosen time and time again. Being a leader means being able to work with the opposing party, Obama has shown no ability to get in the trenches and work for bipartisan support. It’s easy to talk the talk and not walk the walk, and Obama has shown repeatedly that he is all talk no action.

  • Wayne Thorson

    George, I have answered this question many times. I have said bring all our troops home. Get out of the Middle East and stay out. The only way to get invoved over there is if NATO wants to get involved. We have sacrificed our young troops way more than we should have. They don’t understand us and we don’t understand them. We can’t force them to live like us. If no other country is concerned at what goes on over there than we shouldn’t be either. Now tell me how you feel about it.