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Crowd voices Bridge Avenue ideas

Citizens ask officials for creative solutions

Published Friday, January 9, 2009

With some creative problem solving, added turning lanes or maybe even a smaller boulevard, many of the problems on Bridge Avenue corridor can be resolved.

That was the overwhelming opinion voiced Thursday night in City Hall during a public informational meeting intended to discuss what the options are for development of Bridge Avenue. The crowd in attendance at the meeting was what Freeborn County Engineer Sue Miller called, “One of the greatest things I’ve seen for any public works project.”

She said in the almost 20 years she’s been in the county, she doesn’t think there had ever been that kind of turnout for any project she’s worked on.

City Hall was packed, with minimal standing room. There were at least 75 people in attendance. Additional chairs from another level of City Hall were brought up to the Council Chambers for people to use.

The large crowds came in response to a recent meeting with officials from both Freeborn County and the city of Albert Lea, during which the project resurfaced after a year or so hiatus. During that meeting, city and county leaders discussed the different design options for the road and whether to pursue funding opportunities on the state and federal level. No decisions have yet been made.

The road, which is also named Freeborn County Road 22, is a county highway that runs through the city limits. That means both the city and the county have a role in its renovations, no matter whether they choose to reconstruct a two-lane road — like the one that’s already in place — or to develop it into a three-lane or four-lane road.

Discussing some of the background of the project, Craig Vaughn with SRF Consulting Group explained that his consulting firm studied three different options, plus a no build option, for the road. It studied those options under several criteria.

Sue Miller

These criteria included providing adequate capacity, correcting roadway deficiencies, limiting overall and long-term construction costs, providing facilities that accommodate multi-modal transportation, promoting safety, limiting overall and long-term right of way costs and accommodating other infrastructure improvements and operations, he said.

The firm developed the roadway into four segments for review, including segments from Marshall Street to Richway Avenue, Richway Avenue to Hammer Road, Hammer Road to Hershey Street and Hershey Street to Interstate 90, Vaughn said.

The consultants looked at current and future traffic volumes, and based on the current traffic volumes alone, one of those four segments already failed the threshold for a two-lane road, he said. In the future, all but one will operate over the threshold for a three-lane alternative.

Based on that information, along with comparing the other criteria over the different options, Vaughn said his firm recommended choosing the four-lane divided road option. It’s the only design type that has to be done just once, that can handle traffic for a realistic life of the roadway and that requires right of way only once.

The estimate for these road construction is more than $20 million.

He said Albert Lea and Freeborn County are in a good situation to receive federal funding. There are many different funds to apply for, many of which have to be done within the next month.

That’s why the city and county staff are seeking direction from the public and ultimately the Albert Lea City Council and Freeborn County Board of Commissioners about whether to go after these funds.

After Vaughn finished his presentation, many people questioned some of the points the consultant discussed.

Warren Jensen, of Hale Drive, said he drives a car on Bridge Avenue every day of the year, and he’s familiar with the traffic on the road.

Through all of his observation and thought, he said, he has yet to understand why the project is being done.

“I fail to understand how the present condition of Bridge Avenue is a hardship on any person living in Albert Lea,” Jensen said.

“If anybody wants to see some real traffic problems, come with me,” he said. “I’ll take you to Minneapolis. I’ll show you what some traffic problems are. We don’t have them on Bridge Avenue as what I can see.”

With some minor tweaking — perhaps some more left turn lanes, more sophisticated signal systems, or the removal of boulevard to widen the road in a few places — any problems can be fixed, Jensen said. It requires “good old-fashioned common sense.”

He also expressed he think the city should stop spending money for studies to be done by outside consultants.

When put on the spot to find out his opinion, Commissioner Dan Belshan said, “I believe this is the wrong project on the wrong road at the wrong time.”

This brought cheers to the crowd. Belshan said he thinks the elected officials need to listen to the people with viable economic options in mind.

Former Albert Lea Mayor Bob Haukoos talked about the lack of growth in Albert Lea during the last many years and the declining school enrollment.

He said he believes a major expansion would destroy the north side of the community, resulting in lost tax base, and the loss of 32 homes, 10 business directly. Then there are 10 other business that would also be affected. He asked whether a larger road would take additional maintenance.

Stuart Olson, of Richway Drive, said for him the biggest bottleneck on Bridge Avenue has always been around Hawthorne Street going uptown.

Many others identified that intersection as a key problem as well.

Others talked of wise spending and warned the county and city to make sure the funding was obtained before they went after anything.

“Find the funding before you start buying,” said Bill Weiser of Bridge Avenue. “We all have to be on a budget, and this is not a budget. This is a shopping spree.”

Other questioned the current and future traffic counts for the road.

Miller said those counts are conducted by the state Department of Transportation. Another count is scheduled for this summer. That number has increased so much because Albert Lea and many other cities in the country are now communities where everyone has to drive themselves, whether it be teenagers or both spouses in the home.

Albert Lea City Engineer Steven Jahnke said he hopes people realize that Bridge Avenue and the infrastructure underneath of it are not going to last forever. Because of this, staff have to make sure that when they’re making decisions on how to replace it, they’re going to do so with what will be the most fiscally responsible option for 80 to 100 years down the line, he said. They don’t want to replace the road with a two-lane road again and then find out in 20 years that wasn’t the best option.

“Five years from now we’ll be just fine,” he said. “But it’s that 20, 30, 50 years down the road.”

The engineer said though people keep saying Bridge Avenue is fine the way it is, from his perspective, it is not.

Over a three-year period there were 164 car wrecks on this road.

“As an engineer, that’s not fine,” Jahnke said.

The public identified they would like a more detailed description of these wrecks — where they occurred, what age groups they occurred by and at what times of day they happened.

Haukoos pointed out that the severity of the crashes has been very low, with no fatalities, most of which happened because of inattentive drivers.

Miller reassured people that no decisions have been made about what should be done for the road. But “if we’re going to put it back, we need to put it back right,” she said.

She noted that she thinks the community has a lot going for itself and that people need to have a positive perspective about what the community can be.

“We don’t have enough money to do things twice,” Miller said. “We have to do it right the first time.”

Newly seated Albert Lea Mayor Mike Murtaugh thanked the large crowd for attending the meeting and said he wanted to reassure people that as a new council, there have not been any decisions made.

“If the direction has changed since the 2005 study, we need to know that,” Murtaugh said.

He encouraged people to contact their city councilors and commissioners with their opinions.

The meeting was televised live on the government access channel and will be replayed at future times.


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Posted by Free (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It looks like a lot of people got involved and spoke up. I would say there was more than 100+ people there but I could be wrong. I think people posting here have made a change and the people who were at the meeting did as well. It will now come down to 1 simple thing. Will our elected officals listen to the people or will they think they know better and do the project anyway. My hope is they will listen to us and not do it.

Posted by SRO (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you Free, I hope they listen to the people.
Thumbs up to all the people who were able to attend this meeting and let their voices be heard!

Posted by monkeymomma (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spending 20 million dollars is not going to magically change people into attentive drivers.

Posted by Wildbill (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Free and SRO- You have to remember there are different viewpoints to everything. Listening to the people means listening to other viewpoints other than yours.

Posted by anasgrammy (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

leave the street as is. it doesn't need to be bigger because of car wrecks on it. people need to watch where they're going and drive in accordance with weather conditions. that would solve the problem. why should more people have to lose their homes. find something worth concerning yourselves with and leave well enough alone.

Posted by Free (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wildbill you are correct however after being there last night and reading the post here I would say we speak for the majority. This is the first test to see if the change we voted for in November will be the change we thought we were getting.

Posted by amauer (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would be willing to bet most of those inattentive drivers were inexperienced drivers going to and from the Senior High.
When you come over the rise at Richway traffic often screeches to a halt. Kids tend to tailgate in a hurry to get somewhere.

Posted by ALgrad00 (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel for people who might have to lose their homes or move their business and can understand that you don't want any change (it's your front yard).

At the same time, A lot of people wonder why more graduates from Albert Lea don't move back and start a family. Well maybe it is because these alumni haven't seen the community very optimistic to change. Ex. bigger, better, and more efficient

Just an opinion, not trying to upset anyone.

Posted by outoftowner (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Algrad00, although it may seem like the AL citizens are not optimistic for change, I don’t think that is necessarily so. I think they’re sick of wastefulness and doing things before they’re necessary. Change is hard for most people. You get used to something one way and then people want to make changes. I think people would be on board if that change would ultimately make things better for the community. People and businesses are not going to rush to AL because there are more lanes to drive on. Change just to make changes is wasteful. AL citizens new and old want to see the town grow and flourish. Making Bridge street changes in general is not a bad idea, but I don’t think there is a need for it now. With the population declining, there are less people to pay for this as well, and I know, the residents of AL are already spread thin as are a lot of people these days. The most important thing AL needs is economic development and population growth. Once the population starts growing (more citizens to help pay this multi-million dollar bill) then come back to the issue.

Posted by Free (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think it is a lack of optimism on the part of the community. The community wants alumni to move back. The problem is there is not an economic base to bring you back. I think that people leave to get an education but when they look to Albert Lea they see that most jobs and the new business in AL don't need 4+ year of school. The issue than becomes how will I pay off my loans and such.

Now how do you get these jobs to come. Well if I knew that I would share it with you all. But I don't know. What I think is Albert Lea should look at what people and business want. Low taxes, an inviting place. A place where they feel they matter. This hasn't happen in a while. The city passed many unfriendly laws as of late, commercial property has faced increasing cost, home owners have been under attack. I look at it like throwing a stone in a still pond. Long after the stone is gone the ripples keep going. The stone was tossed a while ago yet we are still dealing with the ripples.

My questions is how do you stop the ripples? I don't think it is by throwing more stone. Just hope the new city council and county think the same way.

Posted by Wildbill (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Free, I will agree with you paragraph about the lack of good economic base. Although back in the 50's and 60's we had a great economic base.
However, the city leaders wanted to protect their business districts so they pushed the Interstates out of town and guess what? Also, Queen Products wanted to expand their company by buying up the houses on one side of them. The city wouldn't let them and so Queens left town. I know that for a fact because I personally knew Lee Berghoff. He told me that they could handle strikes and taxes, but they had to expand or else.

Posted by cfray (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was at the meeting and I felt that it was a great turnout. I do not believe the city can afford to do this project. A lot of people talked about having a beautiful street with nice houses and pretty trees, but once you start putting turn lanes in it will affect a lot of people by making their front lawn smaller than it already is. People will try to sell their homes, but who is going to buy them? It will turn into a lot of rental properties. People who rent don't care how they treat the home they live in, and soon it will start to look like South Broadway! It will start looking dumpy!!! It will no longer look beautiful!! There has to be a better solution.

Posted by the_truth (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One thing I've noticed about the road is how many veering changes there are, to accomodate for the existing turn lanes. More often than not people cut these corners, or don't see/ignore them all together. If the road was widened in areas to accomodate 3 lanes, the entire center lane could be used for left turns, as it is in front of the mall. The land loss for property owners would be right around 4-5 feet max, and that is all boulevard anyway. The actual owner-owned property won't change. I think keeping the traffic traveling in a straight line would solve several problems on that road.

Posted by Wildbill (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cfray- the solution would be to do something and get it over with.

Posted by ladybug (anonymous) on January 9, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the news said there have been as many as 10,000 cars on that road in a day....seems a little far-fetched. I say leave it alone, add lanes or traffic lights here & there.

Posted by badjuju (anonymous) on January 10, 2009 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You hate to see them take away the boulevard on Bridge St. Just ask the people who live on Garfield St, everytime you get a 3 inch snowfall the city plows will fill your sidewalk and driveway in at least three times. If they do take it out,just hope they don't put your stop signs,no parking signs and power poles in the middle of your sidewalk.

Posted by allake (anonymous) on January 15, 2009 at 11:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wildbill,

Queen Products? There were taken over by Scotsman Industries, and they were not going to expand their plant here, they were going to build a new one out on town hall road. More revisionist history.

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